Here’s a guest post by one of my friends, who prefers to remain anonymous but asked me to say I’m quoting “from the old magazine”. Those of you who know him, you know why he prefers anonymity. Those of you who don’t: he’s one of the most impressive martial artists I’ve ever seen in my life, and I’ve seen a bunch. His karate lineage is as pure as it gets and he has seen not the just elephant but a herd of stampeding pachyderms all over the world.
In other words, this is one of the few occasions I’ll flat out tell you to shut up if you start disrespecting his words. He’s earned my respect and as this is my place, I want you to give it to him too. Listen to learn and learn to listen, as the man says…
Here’s the post:
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As a recent discussion about how close contemporary karate instruction was to old style karate. I’ve tried to pull together a listing of those pervious practices. Trying to understand the past method of karate study can be difficult. I think it’s safe to make some assumptions about the 1850-1900 time frame.
1. Karate was a public presentation at many festivals. On the other hand there were no tournaments, sporting aspects to the training.
2. If accepted for training you live in a walking distance from your instructor.
3 The instructor knew who you were in great detail as a member of your community. Your instructor may have had 40+ years into their own study when you began. The instructor was not recruiting students just living a private tradition.
4. You had a cultural obligation to follow your instructor’s teachings, especially if you chose to train.
5. You were either a legacy student (through familiar connections) or were someone who passed the vetting process.
6. The training was private taught hands on, with no technical vocabulary attached. No terms for punch, block, front kick, bunkai were used.
7. You had no uniform.
8. You did not receive rank.
9. You had no specified syllabus of study, what you learnt, what standards were associated with the study was entirely at the hands of the instructor.
10. You study had no style name, no school name, it’s tradition was passed only in oral history.
11. Your training may have moved to other instructors. Most of the instructors out of this era had multiple instructors. Due to your attachment to your instructor, they may have been the initiator of additional training.
12. The Makiwara and Kata were the primary components of training. Other components to training were not documented.
13. There is a very strong chance that the Bubishi was not available to Okinawan seniors at this time and may have entered Okinawa post 1900. If that is the case it may have had no influence on the movement of te towards karate.
14. There is no documentation how anyone truly trained. Length of instruction or depth of instruction. The best indication is the art of the students of that era who became instructors.
15. One of the differences between large group instruction and small group/individual instruction the instructor can more directly interact with the student.
16. Then there is the Time. Japan took control of Okinawa in 1871. The King was banished to Japan. The institutions such as the schools came fully into Japanese Control. The government stipends to the noble class abruptly ended, many of whom were reduced to poverty and a drop to the bottom of the social structure having to scramble to find work.
Older customs were ended by the Japanese government, this included wearing the traditional topknot. This even extended to some of the kata movements designed to grab that topknot, why practice something that no longer existed. All of this would work to make the training more private. One example of this came from Hohen Soken describing how the opening of Kusanku kata would be used to pull blades (in the topknot comb) from the hair to use with Kusanku technique.
17. Many of the Okinawan people began leaving, there was a shortage of land, there weren’t many jobs to support them. This helped the movement of karate outside of Okinawa to the Okinawan communities forming in many lands.
We have direct comments on training in the 1850-1900 time frame.
Funakoshi Ginchin “Karate-do My Way of Life” describes his earliest training with Itosu Anko on the Naifanchi kata years before Itosu Sensei created the Pinan kata. Eric Estrada’s interview with Hohen Soken also describes his training in that time.
As you can see, it is impossible to duplicate those conditions today.
Some can be replicated many cannot. But there is an underlying principle that karate moves with the times. It did then and does so today.
Additionally, interviews with and writings by Kyan, Motobu and Miyagi likely bridge back to those earlier days of training. Here are some links you may find helpful.
Interview with Chotoku Kyan – with Comments by Dan Smith
Karate-do Gariyaku – Chojun Myagi
Sayings of Choki Motobu – translated by Joe Swift
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A lot of these points might rub you the wrong way, especially if you’ve been indoctrinated by the revisionist history practices some karate teacher engage in. I understand that, but would advise you to consider this list and research it some more. A lot of really important issues are mentioned here, some in passing, others more clearly. If you practice karate, I hope you get something out of it.
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Ferran says
Indeed.
You know, this is kind of the reason I like internet and, also, one of the things that pisses me off most in MA: on one hand, internet has made it possible for us to kind of meet this kind of people. On the other, it’s still extraordinarily difficult to meet the real good ones, not because they put obstacles, but simply because of anonymity and the sheer amount of noise Great Grandmaster Sokes make. Or even people who’re not bad, by any measure –certainly better than I–, but who are no in the same league. Not by a long shot.
It’s worse than looking for the needle in the haystack. It’s like being shown a field full of them –haystacks– and told of the proverb in passing. And then you find one. What you don’t realize is that it was the _big_ needle and you just threw away with the chaff the one you really wanted. If you keep looking for them, and you train your sight, you end up finding smaller and smaller needles, but…
Ah, well. I’m glad I know what I do, but still… I cannot help but envy some pupils.
Take care. See you.
Josh A. Kruschke says
Thanks you and Anonymous for the info.
Good stuff.
:-)
Josh
David Pirie says
Much of this reminds me of how Jeet Kune Do–at least in my area–is being taught out of instructors garages today, particularly numbers 6 (at least the first part), 7, 8, 9, 10 (to a certain extent), 11 and 15. Not sure that the JKD and traditional karate training methodologies can be considered comparable overall, but it seems to me that JKD may be to traditional karate what contemporary/”retail” karate may be to what the mainland Japanese arts may have been (just a conjecture. I’m NO expert).
Marc G. says
An excellent and concise explanation of the basic training environment and lifestyle of the older generation of karate-ka. Makes me think I was born in the wrong century (at least as far as my training goes). The older ways were there because they fit the situation that the students and instructors trained for…fighting. That is to say not competeing or showmanship, but survival. Thank “Anonymous” for his insight from me and thanks to you for helping to extend the logevity of traditional training itself with posts like this.
One thing about the post…
“Eric Estrada’s interview with Hohen Soken also describes his training in that time.”
The interviewer’s name was ERNIE Estrada…not Eric Estrada. I think that was the character on the old “CHIPS” tv show from the eraly 80’S. Just a small detail I saw…thanks again.
Ray says
Ha ha! Yeh, I thought that when I saw the name, Eric Estrada.